I figured this would be of use to some of the adult folk who congregate in this forum, since many in the others think we are taboo.
1. Make one main super site or use a domain.
2. Sign up to sponsors that cater to a niche you understand and enjoy personally.
3. Sign up for Chameleon Submitter (or other submit programs). $24.95 mo.
4. Make new galleries out of the sponsor content provided. Do not use their pre-made. Everyone else is already doing that, and you will not get listed.
5. Submit using Chameleon. Link back to your main super site. Do this 7 days a week to start, eventually maybe back down to 4-5.
6. Arrange all your gal submits on that super site.
Yes. It will take time. So you may want to do 15-30 in advance before submitting to fill up your site. Although you can always mix in some sponsor galleries with your referral code if you like. Keep adding in more of your own daily. Even if only one or two. You drive traffic to your TGP or super site to gain traffic and book markers. Plus hopefully make some conversions.
Organize the submits by niche, sections. Over time you will have a nice super archive of stuff, plus traffic and bookmarkers.
Now that you have a hub, or main traffic stream,.. from there, launch new sites.
The main thing that you NEED TO DO to make it online (IMHO) is you need one site to launch from. For me, it was the celebrity site. Which is why I love the celebrity nice. Steady money, and traffic. I spun off every other site from that one by links, newsletter, and so on. Even if not adult, or foot related.
Having 200 small sites with sh&& traffic are not going to get you making money. I know that we’ve all thought that, but what you need is one, solid, launch pad site that either has… visitors… or makes money. Obviously, you’d prefer both.
What I did personally was try the various sites, and those I could make money on, I kept. Those that did not make me any real money, traffic, whatever I sold off. I’ve done that same thing over the years time and again. I may try a new niche, or market. Demo things, see if I can make money and how much. But then I sell it off, and keep those that do. Kinda like leap frogging.
One more thing, to make it online, adult or otherwise, since many do not have money to get rolling, buy super sites, or burn on traffic…. you are simply going to have to invest TIME. If you can’t invest time, then you are going to fail, so you had might as well get on to failing right now.
Submitting galleries, link lists, and link building is a pain. Everyone hates it. Yes, everyone would like a short cut. But to ‘cut’ in this case, you need green (aka cash money). Many I’ve talked to, and helped have NO GREEN. Some are willing to do what it takes. Others keep talking about ’short cuts’, and buying traffic, etc. But it’s no surprise they fail.
Again, in IMHO, I would say that if you are just starting out in adult and have no ‘hub site’. You should be investing 1-2 hours a day minimum building links, traffic trades, submitting galleries, free sites, and linking them up back to you. It will take you 3-6 months to see any real progress. Around the 9-12 month, if you are doing this every day, you should start to see some results and cash in. DO NOT GET LAZY. Keep going!
Eventually you will be able to leap frog to buy established sites, build your own, try different niches, and networks. But make sure you maintain your main “hub site”. The one you launch from. Keep the traffic, UV, sales, whatever strong.
Sell off those things that do not work. You will find over time some sites you like working on, but they take more time, and generate you less money then other sites. Unless it’s of personal interest to you. Sell it off.
I get a lot of PM, and ICQ from the board asking me to look at their sites, and give them pointers, and help. Some I have even talked to on the phone. Keep in mind however, a few tips and a few minutes are all I generally give. If you need more detailed help, run a search on here for my consulting help thread.
Yes. There are steps that I am leaving out. Yes, there are many variations to the above on ways to do things. But I am give giving you a few pointers. I am not your online Yoda.
But I thought this would be useful to some of my friends in this forum.
Good luck.
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I seriously think this is too much work.
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That is why many fail. No offense.
I would spend a whole hour making a gallery from scratch, building the page, uploading the FTP, putting it into Chameleon, submitting it, then verifying the e-mails (you could always buy the e-mail verification and save yourself 5-15 min. I suppose).
In return, I get traffic to all my sites. More importantly, I get good, highly targeted, filtered CONVERTING traffic to my sites.
As you can clearly see from my sig, I am converting at 1:6 (for every 6 visitors to join = 1 sign up) over 6 sites over 3 years from that screen shot. That is two celebrity sites, and 4 adult. This doesn’t even get into the clip stores, dvd, and others.
Is an hour’s worth of my time worth a 1:6 conversion rate over 3 years making $XXX,XXX a year worth my time? Um, yeah.
I do little additional advertising other than in my network(s), i.e. the hub site system.
Now I pay someone else $100.00 a week to do a single gallery submit a day for me, and some other tasks (10 hours a week). Which is ironic, and funny. Why? Because many chase their fools gold trying to buy adsense sites making $1-3-5 a day. Like that’s big money, and I can bet many spend much more of their precious time then I do link building, promoting, and updating.
Anyways hoss, I am not here to bust your balls. Many ask, I tell them how to be successful, and some have said the same as you. Years later, when I see them. They’ve given up, or made little progress and have spent hundreds or thousands, not to mention countless hours of time and frustration.
Just like Shoemoney, many ask me how I got started and if there was a shortcut. Similarly to Shoe, it took me years to find my groove. I share my stories, just as he does. Many simply do not not want to put in the work.
Obviously my way works. I have the ratios, and annual to show it. But it’s like anything. I can show you the water, but can’t make you drink.
Many think that no one will pay for toe porn where the girls are not naked. They were wrong, and I enjoy nice money because of it. Same for the celebrity. Few think they can sell a celebrity niche site unless they are all naked pictures. Again, they are wrong, and I have hundreds of rebilling members every month to prove it.
No one has to take my advice. But I throw it out there for those serious about making some money, and following some suggestions that work.
2 cents
Originally Posted by MrMarco View Post
Excellent post Barefootsies. You’re so on the money when you said most people don’t want to put in the time to learn the biz. I’ve been in the biz for a couple of years now and learning more and more every day. I still very much need my day job but as time goes on I can see myself transitioning to this on a full time basis. Those who simply want the easy path to earning a decent income in whatever business they try are destined to fail, save for a few very lucky people.
By the way I do have a handful of foot sites also. I started, as you suggested, with something I know and like.
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Good to hear buddy.
It is very important you pick something you like, or can look at day in and out. I know gay is big money, but I can’t stand to look at other’s cornholes, and poles all day. Most hardcore bores me. Plus I know my markets, and what people want. So while it cuts me out of some bigger pools. I capitalize in the ponds.
Yes. 90% of the people I talk to, or contact me, that are looking to buy one of my sites, or get into the biz, or need help are simply lazy.
Some have money, and think they can just buy their way to #1 in SERPS, and traffic, links etc. While I am sure it could be possible to some degree, it’s going to take more money then those contacting me have.
The other group want to make millions, and are not willing to put in the time. Which is always some combination of.. the do not want to put in the time doing grunt work to learn, and be able to function without help. Or.. they do not want to put in the time just doing the work.
I mean, 1-2 hours a day doing submits, or link building, etc. But somehow they think they are going to knock back $100k plus a year doing NO WORK. I mean, come the F on. I wanna know what bizarro world some of these people are from??
Online works the same to RL business in a lot of ways. The sooner you get on that page the better. You should be forming a DBA ($15-25), and/or LLC ($300-500) to protect yourself from lawsuits. You should be classified as a business, and have a business bank account ($25-100 to open). You should file to get a fed/state tax ID so you do not have to flood the net and sponsors with your SSN (if U.S.). You need good hosting. I mean, if you are not up, or you can’t handle traffic and are down. You are out of business.
I mean these things are just common sense.
I can’t get any more straight to the point than this.. Online money making is a business. Your website is your store front. Your visitors customers. The sooner you start treating it like a business, the sooner you will be successful.